A recent question posed inquired whether 16,000 jobs as a stone setter represented a significant number of jobs in the national economy. When an ALJ makes an affirmative finding of significance that analyzes all the factors necessary for consideration, 16,000 jobs may meet the test -- not as harmless error but as an affirmative finding of significance.
The better question is whether 16,000 stone setter jobs exist in the national economy either as a stone setter or as an example of other sedentary unskilled work with similar requirements. Because the Commissioner is wedded to the DOT, we start there. Stone setter is a sedentary, unskilled occupation with reasoning level 1. DICOT 735.687-034. Reasoning is generally the highest rating of the reasoning-math-language trilogy for general educational development. Turns out that is true for this occupation as well. If the only limitations are sedentary and 1-2 step instructions, this occupation fits.
The O*NET OnLine puts stone setter in the occupational group of production workers, all other. SOC 51-9199. So does Job Browser Pro and the Specific Occupation Selector (the companion to the Occupational Employment Quarterly). The Occupational Outlook Handbook states that this occupational group represents 263,500 jobs in 2016 with typical requirements of a high school education or equivalent and moderate-term training (semi-skilled or skilled). The Occupational Employment Statistics states that the group represents 230,760 jobs as of May 2018. The Current Population Survey states that production workers, all other represents 1,107,000 jobs in the national economy. The CPS group includes semiconductor processors (51-9141), cooling and freezing equipment operators and tenders (51-9193), and production workers, all other (51-9199). The other two groups do not account for the huge difference in job numbers. But we do not need to resolve that problem, today.
Back to the DOT. Stone setter works in the jewelry and silverware manufacturing sector. The employment projections describe that precise industry designation. NAICS 339910. The EP states that this industry employs 300 production workers, all other. There are not 16,000 stone setters in the national economy.
The Occupational Requirements Survey states that 63.9% of production workers, all other require medium exertion. The ORS states that production workers, all other stand/walk 75% of the day at the 10th percentile. There is not a statistical basis for the existence of sedentary work in the occupational group.
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Wednesday, December 19, 2018
Surveillance-System Monitor - DOT 379.367-010 - and School Bus Monitor - DOT 372.667-042 - Occasional Handling and No Fingering
We used the SCO and the aptitudes for dexterity to show that there really are not a significant number of jobs for a person limited to light work (six hours of standing/walking), occasional handling, and no fingering. There is more than one to tackle the problem. We look at surveillance-system monitor (DOT 379.367-010) and school bus monitor (DOT 372.667-042) without the benefit of the O*Net or Occupational Requirements Survey.
Surveillance-system monitor (DOT 379.367-010) belongs to protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099) and gaming surveillance officers and gaming instructors (SOC 33-9031). School bus monitor (DOT 372.667-042) belongs to protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099). The O*Net does not address protective service workers, all other; the code ends with a "9" and is an "all other" group. The Occupational Requirements Survey data as December 1, 2018, does not address protective service workers, all other. We can check the OOH to determine aggregate job numbers and the typical education/training.
Incumbents have at least some college in 78.8% of jobs.
The Occupational Employment Statistics estimates the occupational group at 135,390.
To winnow down this occupational group to size, we combine that number of jobs with the group of lifeguards, ski patrol, and other recreational protective service workers (SOC 33-9092). The OOH describes this occupational group as representing 152,100 jobs. The O*NET states that 23% of those jobs are full-time; approximately 34,980 jobs are full-time.
The Current Population Survey lumps life guards and all other protective service workers together in stating the incidence of full-time work. CPS states that is aggregation represents 49,000 full-time jobs. That leaves about 16,000 full-time jobs inside of protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099). The list of DOT codes placed inside of SOC 33-9099 is short:
Deputy Marshal is clearly a full-time position. There are more than 3,900 U.S. Deputy Marshals in the nation. We are now down to circa 12,000 full-time protective service workers, all other in the five remaining occupations.
The OES reports school employee and bus transportation as providing 24,120 jobs in the nation for protective service workers, all other. Annual wages are calculated by multiplying the hourly wage by 2,080 regardless of the number of hours actually worked. Federal employment in airports, train stations, and bus depots is not listed as a top employing industry. We can confidently conclude that the number of jobs in protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099) is not significant. See also Beltran v. Astrue, 700 F.3d 386 (9th Cir. 2012).
Another method for gripping this occupational group is to use Personal Care and Service Occupations (SOC 39-0000).
Series ID: ORUV1000038P00000065
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000235
The lifting/carrying figures tell us that we are looking at 10% for the group could be sedentary and something less than 25% could be light, again no more specific data to narrow the estimation. The ORS does not provide data for sitting or standing/walking beyond the "sitting vs. standing/walking at will."
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000771
The manipulative requirements put the number of job with no fine manipulation at 2.3% and no gross manipulation at 0.1%. Assuming a rough accuracy of this data, we get results:
Surveillance-system monitor (DOT 379.367-010) belongs to protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099) and gaming surveillance officers and gaming instructors (SOC 33-9031). School bus monitor (DOT 372.667-042) belongs to protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099). The O*Net does not address protective service workers, all other; the code ends with a "9" and is an "all other" group. The Occupational Requirements Survey data as December 1, 2018, does not address protective service workers, all other. We can check the OOH to determine aggregate job numbers and the typical education/training.
33-9099 Protective service workers, all other
Typical Education Needed
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High school diploma or equivalent
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Work Experience in a Related Occupation
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None
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Typical On-The-Job Training Needed to Attain Competency
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Short-term on-the-job training
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2016 Employment
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133,800
|
Incumbents have at least some college in 78.8% of jobs.
The Occupational Employment Statistics estimates the occupational group at 135,390.
To winnow down this occupational group to size, we combine that number of jobs with the group of lifeguards, ski patrol, and other recreational protective service workers (SOC 33-9092). The OOH describes this occupational group as representing 152,100 jobs. The O*NET states that 23% of those jobs are full-time; approximately 34,980 jobs are full-time.
The Current Population Survey lumps life guards and all other protective service workers together in stating the incidence of full-time work. CPS states that is aggregation represents 49,000 full-time jobs. That leaves about 16,000 full-time jobs inside of protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099). The list of DOT codes placed inside of SOC 33-9099 is short:
DOTCode
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DOTTitle
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SVP
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STRENGTH
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199.267-026
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POLYGRAPH EXAMINER
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5
|
L
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372.367-010
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COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER, PATROL
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3
|
L
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372.667-042
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SCHOOL BUS MONITOR
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2
|
L
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376.137-010
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MANAGER, INTERNAL SECURITY
|
7
|
L
|
377.267-010
|
DEPUTY UNITED STATES MARSHAL
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5
|
M
|
379.367-010
|
SURVEILLANCE-SYSTEM MONITOR
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2
|
S
|
Deputy Marshal is clearly a full-time position. There are more than 3,900 U.S. Deputy Marshals in the nation. We are now down to circa 12,000 full-time protective service workers, all other in the five remaining occupations.
The OES reports school employee and bus transportation as providing 24,120 jobs in the nation for protective service workers, all other. Annual wages are calculated by multiplying the hourly wage by 2,080 regardless of the number of hours actually worked. Federal employment in airports, train stations, and bus depots is not listed as a top employing industry. We can confidently conclude that the number of jobs in protective service workers, all other (SOC 33-9099) is not significant. See also Beltran v. Astrue, 700 F.3d 386 (9th Cir. 2012).
Another method for gripping this occupational group is to use Personal Care and Service Occupations (SOC 39-0000).
33-0000.00 (workers in protective service occupations)
Series ID: ORUV1000038P00000064
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of workers in protective service occupations; svp is short demonstration only
Requirement: Education, Training, And Experience
Occupation: workers in protective service occupations
Estimate: svp is short demonstration only
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 4.4 |
Series ID: ORUV1000038P00000065
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of workers in protective service occupations; svp is beyond short demonstration, up to & including 1 month
Requirement: Education, Training, And Experience
Occupation: workers in protective service occupations
Estimate: svp is beyond short demonstration, up to & including 1 month
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 28.3 |
In this broad classification, 32.7% of jobs are unskilled. We don't have enough data to use basic algebra to eliminate detailed groups of jobs, so we use this figure.
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000234
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: protective service occupations; pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (10th percentile)
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: protective service occupations
Estimate: pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (10th percentile)
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 10 |
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000235
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: protective service occupations; pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (25th percentile)
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: protective service occupations
Estimate: pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (25th percentile)
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 25 |
The lifting/carrying figures tell us that we are looking at 10% for the group could be sedentary and something less than 25% could be light, again no more specific data to narrow the estimation. The ORS does not provide data for sitting or standing/walking beyond the "sitting vs. standing/walking at will."
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000769
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of workers in protective service occupations; fine manipulation is required
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: workers in protective service occupations
Estimate: fine manipulation is required
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 97.7 |
Series ID: ORUP1000038P00000771
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of workers in protective service occupations; gross manipulation is required
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: workers in protective service occupations
Estimate: gross manipulation is required
| Year | Period | Estimate |
|---|---|---|
| 2017 | Annual | 99.9 |
The manipulative requirements put the number of job with no fine manipulation at 2.3% and no gross manipulation at 0.1%. Assuming a rough accuracy of this data, we get results:
# of jobs
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% unskilled
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# of unskilled jobs
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133,800
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32.7%
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43,753
|
# of unskilled jobs
|
% sedentary
|
# sedentary
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4,800
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10%
|
4,375
|
# of unskilled jobs
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% light or sedentary
|
#
|
4,800
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24%
|
32,112
|
#
|
% no fine manipulation
|
#
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32,112
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2.3%
|
739
|
# no fine manipulation
|
% no gross manipulation
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# no gross/no fine
|
739
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0.1%
|
< 739
|
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