Vocational expert faced with a sedentary unskilled residual functional capacity identifies the occupation of document preparer. ALJ turns the questioning over to the intrepid representative. We start with the DOT:
249.587-018 DOCUMENT PREPARER, MICROFILMING (business ser.)Does that job still exist?
Prepares documents, such as brochures, pamphlets, and catalogs, for microfilming, using paper cutter, photocopying machine, rubber stamps, and other work devices: Cuts documents into individual pages of standard microfilming size and format when allowed by margin space, using paper cutter or razor knife. Reproduces document pages as necessary to improve clarity or to reduce one or more pages into single page of standard microfilming size, using photocopying machine. Stamps standard symbols on pages or inserts instruction cards between pages of material to notify MICROFILM-CAMERA OPERATOR (business ser.) 976.682-022 of special handling, such as manual repositioning, during microfilming. Prepares cover sheet and document folder for material and index card for company files indicating information, such as firm name and address, product category, and index code, to identify material. Inserts material to be filmed in document folder and files folder for processing according to index code and filming priority schedule.
GOE: 07.05.03 STRENGTH: S GED: R3 M1 L2 SVP: 2 DLU: 86
Well, no. Now the worker scans documents into a computer.
So the person needs to know how to operate the scanner software and utilities for scanning documents?
So the person needs to know how to operate the scanner software and utilities for scanning documents?
Yes, but it is still very simple.
This kind of questioning devolves into, "I have 30 years of experience and you don't." We don't want to play that game.
What is the SOC code? General office clerks, 43-9061. Some of the over 3 million general office clerks:
The O*NET says that 88% of general office clerks sit either more than half the time to continuously. The O*NET states that the occupational group requires SVP 4 to < 6. The O*NET has this occupation as semi-skilled.
The ORS describes the occupation as generally requiring sedentary exertion with almost 80% of jobs permitting a sit-stand option at will. The 10th percentile requires sitting 50% of the day; the 25th percentile requires sitting 75% of the day.
This kind of questioning devolves into, "I have 30 years of experience and you don't." We don't want to play that game.
What is the SOC code? General office clerks, 43-9061. Some of the over 3 million general office clerks:
Some clerks file documents or answer phones; others enter data into computers or perform other tasks using software applications. They also frequently use photocopiers, scanners, fax machines, and other office equipment.That is according to the OOH. The OOH says that the occupation requires a high school diploma or equivalent as a typical entry level requirement. The occupational group is unskilled. It only takes 1% of the over 3 million jobs to get to 30,000 jobs in the nation.
The O*NET says that 88% of general office clerks sit either more than half the time to continuously. The O*NET states that the occupational group requires SVP 4 to < 6. The O*NET has this occupation as semi-skilled.
The ORS describes the occupation as generally requiring sedentary exertion with almost 80% of jobs permitting a sit-stand option at will. The 10th percentile requires sitting 50% of the day; the 25th percentile requires sitting 75% of the day.
But we suspected at the outset that general office clerks and this scanner occupation require some skills. The O*NET teased us with some hope. The OOH told us that no prior experience was required and typically needed a high school or equivalent education. The most recent data, the ORS, speaks to these issues with current incumbent surveys.
And the survey said: at the 10th percentile, general office clerks require 180 days of prior work experience. Inconsistent with that statement, the ORS states that 47.3% of general office clerks do not require experience. Checking SVP, the ORS states that 5.8% of jobs have short demonstration only. Another 29.5% of jobs have training time up to 30 days. And 83.2% of the jobs require a high school education.
The statistical data and write-up from the OOH support the presence of scanner jobs and the presence of unskilled general office clerk jobs at the sedentary level of exertion. While less than 13% do not have an educational requirement, that still results in a large number of jobs. Whether the presence of unskilled work, the lack of a high school education, and the absence of a need for prior work experience intersect at 1% or more of the jobs, well that is a vocational expert question for someone that has done a labor market survey and not relying on anecdotal experience from 30 years ago.
The statistical data and write-up from the OOH support the presence of scanner jobs and the presence of unskilled general office clerk jobs at the sedentary level of exertion. While less than 13% do not have an educational requirement, that still results in a large number of jobs. Whether the presence of unskilled work, the lack of a high school education, and the absence of a need for prior work experience intersect at 1% or more of the jobs, well that is a vocational expert question for someone that has done a labor market survey and not relying on anecdotal experience from 30 years ago.
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