Tuesday, March 25, 2025

And Now for the Bad News -- Really Bad News

I had a recent hearing with vocational witness Skylar De Pedro. This is the first time I had a vocational witness testify to a straight Standard Occupational Classification (SOC) with an Occupation Requirements Survey (ORS) reduction for Specific Vocational Preparation (SVP) and exertion. I doubt it will be the last. 

If we examine general office clerks (SOC 43-9061) for full-time, unskilled, sedentary work, the www.occucollect calculator reports:

43-9061 - Office Clerks, General

Job Number Calculations

# of Jobs (OEWS 2023)

% Full-Time (O*NET 29.1)

# Full-Time

2,496,370

74%

1,847,314

# of Jobs

% Unskilled (ORS 2023)

# Unskilled

1,847,314

35.7%

659,491

# of Jobs

% Sedentary (ORS 2023)

# Sedentary

659,491

81.1%

534,847

Using the BLS-endorsed methodology, and applying the O*NET part-time data with the 2023 OEWS and 2023 ORS data, the estimate is over half a million jobs. That is a significant number by any stretch. We confirm that with the ORS report:

43-9061 - Office clerks, general

Education, Training, And Experience (values are Percentages or Days)

Occupational Requirements – specific vocational preparation

2018

2023

2024

specific vocational preparation is short demonstration only

4.4

2

1.1

specific vocational preparation is beyond short demonstration through 1 month

31.3

33.7

44.6

Physical Demands (values are Percentages, Pounds, or Hours)

Occupational Requirements – strength, exertion

2018

2023

2024

strength required is sedentary

73.3

81.1

84.6

And the O*NET:

Reporting O*NET Dataset 29.2

Custom Report for: 43-9061.00 - Office Clerks, General

Structural Job Characteristics

%

Response

Duration of Typical Work Week — Number of hours typically worked in one week.

15

More than 40 hours

59

40 hours

26

Less than 40 hours

 We don't reasonably expect to win a full range of sedentary medical-vocational profile case. That requires that we drill down in the data. Occasional contact with others as defined in the O*NET knocks the job number from over 500,000 jobs to about 10,000 jobs:

Interpersonal Relationships%Response
Contact With Others — How much does this job require the worker to be in contact with others (face-to-face, by telephone, or otherwise) in order to perform it?

82

Constant contact with others

14

Contact with others most of the time

2

Contact with others about half the time

0

Occasional contact with others

2

No contact with others

A limitation to simple work tasks (those not requiring a high school education or equivalent) out of the ORS data sets is not as dramatic an erosion:

Occupational Requirements – education

2018

2023

2024

no minimum education requirement

15.2

18.1

10.9

no minimum education required, and literacy is not required

--

<0.5

<0.5

no minimum education required, and literacy is required

--

<25

10.9

minimum education level is a high school diploma

78.7

74.4

84.1

minimum education level is a high school vocational degree

-

<0.5

--

Further erosion of the number of jobs depends on variables in the medical-vocational profile. Postural demands are not likely in sedentary work. Manipulation (gross, fine, and keyboarding) limitations will significantly erode the occupational base. Limitations in speech, hearing, and vision will have a dramatic, if not preclusive, impact on general office clerks. 

Once the witness uses the BLS-endorsed methodology for estimating the size of the exertion-skill occupational base, using the rest of the data is wide open. Use the data sets, plural intended, as the basis for cross and rebuttal evidence. 

Never surrender. 



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Suggested Citation:

Lawrence Rohlfing, And Now for the Bad News -- Really Bad News, California Social Security Attorney (March 25, 2025)  https://californiasocialsecurityattorney.blogspot.com


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