Why is Job Browser Pro Wrong in Moving DOT Codes to Food Processing Workers, All Other?

Food processing workers, all other, is a 2010 SOC addition to the SOC family.  Our friends a Job Browser Pro put 61 DOT codes in the group, for example 524.687-022 Bakery Worker, Conveyor Line,  The question is whether the movement of the DOT codes is appropriate; does it yield reliable job data?

First, the O*NET OnLine publishes the crosswalk and does not move the 61 DOT codes to food processing workers, all other.  The list of DOT codes for production workers, all other contains the 61 food-related codes.  Food processing workers, all other lists no constituent DOT codes.  The O*NET OnLine does not place any of the 61 DOT codes within food processing workers, all other.  Any placement of a DOT code within that group should be carefully considered and justified.

The O*NET Resource Center provides alternate titles to each SOC/O*NET code.  Food processing workers, all other has four alternate titles:

Olive Pitter
Pasta Press Operator
Poultry Hanger
Yeast Maker

Each of those designations has the source code of 04.  That designation means that the occupations come from the SOC.  Code 08 means the DOT or some other related designation.  

Compare that data and source to 40 alternate titles for recycling and reclamation workers (O*NET 51-9199.01), the detailed subset of production workers, all other (SOC 51-9199).  Of those 40 alternate titles, 10 come from the DOT or related source.  The other 30 alternate titles from form incumbent data and employer job postings.  

Production workers, all other (SOC 51-9199) has 2,749 alternate titles.  This includes 1,413 titles that are lifted in whole or in part from the DOT and related sources.  That balance come from the SOC, the Census Bureau, the Department of Labor, and employer job postings.  

Within that list are olive pitter, pasta press operator, poultry hanger, and yeast maker.  Those move over to food processing workers.  The other food-related production worker occupations -- those stay right there.  Bakery worker, conveyor line and its ilk are production worker, not food processing worker occupations. 

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Bakery Worker, Conveyor Line - 524.687-022 - Occasional Handling, No Fingering

We used the SCO and the aptitudes for dexterity to show that there really are not a significant number of jobs for a person limited to light work (six hours of standing/walking), occasional handling, and no fingering. There is more than one to tackle the problem. We look at bakery worker, conveyor line (DOT 524.687-022) through the O*Net and Occupational Requirements Survey.

Bakery worker, conveyor line (DOT 524.687-022) belongs to crossing guards (SOC 51-3099 and 51-9199). Bakery worker, conveyor line are not addressed in the O*NET OnLine. Both group end in "9" and are "all other" classifications. The Occupational Requirements Survey provides useful data about the occupational group of production workers, all other (51-9199), but not for food processing workers, all other (51-3099) in the 2017 data.

51-9199.00 Production workers, all other

Series ID: ORUV1000031A00000065

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; svp is beyond short demonstration, up to & including 1 month

Requirement: Education, Training, And Experience

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: svp is beyond short demonstration, up to & including 1 month

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	46.3

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUV1000031A00000065

Production workers, all other, engage in unskilled work in 46.3% of jobs.

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000663

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; strength is medium work

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: strength is medium work

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	73.9

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000663

Production workers, all other, engage in light exertion in no more than 26.1% of jobs.

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000234

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (10th percentile)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (10th percentile)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	10

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000234

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000235

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (25th percentile)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: pounds maximum weight lifted/carried (25th percentile)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	25

The 25th percentile requires medium exertion. The number of light jobs is less than 25% of the occupational base; some percentage of the jobs require heavy or very heavy exertion.

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000769

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; fine manipulation is required

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: fine manipulation is required

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	100

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000769

Production worker, all other, jobs require fine manipulation in all jobs.

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000334

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; gross manipulation is required, constantly

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: gross manipulation is required, constantly

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	55.4

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000334

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000345

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; gross manipulation is required, both hands

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: gross manipulation is required, both hands

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	99.5

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000345

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00000771

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: % of production workers, all other; gross manipulation is required

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: gross manipulation is required

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	100

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00000771

Production workers, all other, engage in gross manipulation in all jobs; engage in gross manipulation with both hands in 99.5% of jobs; and do so constantly in 55.4% of jobs. It is unclear but doubtful that production workers, all other have occasional or less requirements for gross manipulation. 

 

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00001004

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; % of day standing/walking is required (10th percentile)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: % of day standing/walking is required (10th percentile)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	75

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00001004

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00001005

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; % of day standing/walking is required (25th percentile)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: % of day standing/walking is required (25th percentile)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	87.5

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00001005

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00001006

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; % of day standing/walking is required (50th percentile - median)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: % of day standing/walking is required (50th percentile - median)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	96.7

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00001006

Series ID: ORUP1000031A00001007

Not seasonally adjusted

Series Title: production workers, all other; % of day standing/walking is required (75th percentile)

Requirement: Physical Demands

Occupation: production workers, all other

Estimate: % of day standing/walking is required (75th percentile)

Year	Period	Estimate
2017	Annual	100

https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/ORUP1000031A00001007

A person limited to six hours of standing/walking in a day could not perform full-time work at the 25th percentile. Production workers, all other, must stand/walk six hours per day at the 10th percentile.

We can check the OOH to determine aggregate job numbers and the typical education/training.

51-9199 Production workers, all other

Typical Education Needed	High school diploma or equivalent
Work Experience in a Related Occupation	None
Typical On-The-Job Training Needed to Attain Competency	Moderate-term on-the-job training
2016 Employment	263,500

Incumbents have at least some college in 35.2% of jobs.

The Occupational Employment Statistics estimates the occupational group at 256,050.

Crossing guards include three DOT codes, two of which are unskilled and light . Putting together the date from the OOH, O*NET, and ORS, we get no jobs as a baker worker, conveyor line or other production worker, all other in the nation that meet the demands of the limitations and constitute presumptive substantial gainful activity:

# of jobs	% unskilled (ORS)	# of unskilled jobs
263,500	46.3%	122,001
# of unskilled jobs	% light (ORS)	# light and unskilled jobs
122,001	24% (<25%)	29,280
# light and unskilled jobs	% no fine manipulation (ORS)	# no fine manipulation jobs
29,280	0%	0
# no fine manipulation jobs	% occasional gross manipulation (ORS)	# no fine, occasional gross manipulation jobs
0	0%	0
# no fine, occasional gross manipulation jobs	% stand/walk ≤ 6 hours/day (ORS)	# no fine, occasional gross, 6 hours s/w jobs
0	10%	0

BONUS SECTION: The number of light, unskilled production workers, all other, jobs that require six hours or less of standing/walking in an eight-hour day on a regular full-time schedule:

# of jobs	% unskilled	# of unskilled jobs
263,500	46.3%	122,001
# of unskilled jobs	% light	# light and unskilled
122,001	24% (<25%)	29,280
# light and unskilled	% stand/walk ≤ 6 hours/day	# stand/walk ≤ 6 hours/day
29,280	10%	2,928

Production Workers, All Other -- List of DOT Industries and Number of Occupations

In this unending quest to eviscerate the identification of work inside of Production Workers, All Other as representing a significant number of jobs in any single DOT code, I present the list of the industries and the number of DOT codes associated with that industry designation. 

To recap, SOC code 51-9199 represents 1,526 different DOT codes after extracting 61 DOT codes to form SOC code 51-3099.  To determine the number of jobs in any DOT code, we need to cross-index the SOC code with the industry code in the Employment Projections.  Getting more specific with the industries listed in County Business Patterns provides more specificity.  But that doesn't not end the inquiry.  The estimate of the number of jobs represented by a single DOT code must look to the occupation and industry codes and then take into account the number of other DOT codes that share that intersection(s).  Here is the list to aid in that endeavor:

No. DOT Codes	DOT Industry Designation
1	agricultural equipment
2	agriculture
1	air transportation
8	aircraft manufacture
1	amusement recreation
52	any industry
4	auto manufacturing
9	automotive service
96	boot & shoe
7	brick and tile
21	buttons and notions
1	building material
11	carpet and rug
48	chemical
47	clock and watch
3	communication equip.
12	concrete products
2	construction
8	cutlery-hardware
27	electrical equipment
18	electronic component
76	fabrication nec
8	foundry
2	fur goods
81	furniture
22	garment
15	glass manufacturing
15	glass products
1	glove and mitten
53	hat and cap
4	household appliances
12	instruments and apparatus
27	jewelry and silverware
14	knitting
5	laundry and related
16	leather manufacture
16	leather products
5	light fixtures
2	machine shop
1	machine tools
4	machinery mfg.
6	manufactured bldgs
2	meat products, other
2	medical services
15	metal products other
8	millwork-plywood
3	mine and quarry
3	motion picture
6	motor bicycles
1	museums
18	musical instruments
10	narrow fabrics
11	nonferrous metal
21	nonmetallic mineral
8	office machines
4	oils and grease
20	optical goods
50	ordnance
2	paint and varnish
14	paper and pulp
61	paper goods
16	pen and pencil
1	personal services
2	petroleum and gas
1	petroleum refining
4	pharmaceuticals
3	photo apparatus
4	photofinishing
13	plastic products
11	plastic synthetics
1	plumbing and heating
9	pottery and porcelain
16	printing/publishing
16	protective services
7	railroad equipment
2	recording
7	retail trade
50	rubber goods
9	rubber tire
5	service ind. Machine
16	ship and boat building
9	smelting and refining
2	soap and related
7	steel and related
11	stonework
3	structural metal
69	textiles
71	textiles, other
2	tinware
16	tobacco
55	toy-sport equipment
2	utilities
2	vehicles, other
11	wood products other
25	wooden container
25	woodworking
1526	TOTAL DOT CODES

The next project requires correlation between the DOT industry designations and the NoemplAICS codes used by BLS in the Occupational Employment Statistics, including the employment projections, and by the Census Bureau in County Business Patterns.