Showing posts with label unskilled. Show all posts
Showing posts with label unskilled. Show all posts

Monday, February 10, 2025

The ORS Suggests 700,000 Sedentary, SVP 1 and 2 Office Clerks, General

But do they meet the definition of unskilled work in the regulatory paradigm? We start with the Occupational Requirements Survey math problems counting jobs in the occupational group, reduce for full-time work, SVP, and exertion. 

43-9061 - Office Clerks, General

Job Number Calculations

# of Jobs (OEWS 2023)

% Full-Time (O*NET 29.1)

# Full-Time

2,496,370

74%

1,847,314

# of Jobs

% SVP 2 (ORS 2024)

# SVP 2

1,847,314

44.6%

823,902

# of Jobs

% Sedentary (ORS 2024)

# Sedentary

823,902

84.6%

697,021


There are 74 DOT codes associated with this SOC group, you can find more information on these DOT codes by running the 2019 O*NET-SOC To DOT Crosswalk Report

The ORS 2023 data set suggests 504,884 jobs. 

The only  source that uses the definition of full-time work expressed in SSR 96-8p is the O*NET. You should use the O*NET because it meets SSA policy. The O*NET Crosswalk report references in the calculator identifies three sedentary, unskilled DOT codes, seven light, unskilled DOT codes, and one medium, unskilled DOT code. That translates to eleven out of seventy-four DOT codes. So much for equal distribution. Here's the list:

I include data-people-things because the regulation says that the matter. The 2021 version of EM-21065 cautioned adjudicators to not use "Temperaments (what the software tool manufacturer calls work situations or situations) or DPT (what the software manufacturer calls work functions) to determine the demands of work." We discussed this in 2022. EM-21065 Rev. 2 does not contain that caution. 20 CFR sec. 404.1568(a) describes unskilled by example:

For example, we consider jobs unskilled if the primary work duties are handling, feeding and offbearing (that is, placing or removing materials from machines which are automatic or operated by others), or machine tending, and a person can usually learn to do the job in 30 days, and little specific vocational preparation and judgment are needed. A person does not gain work skills by doing unskilled jobs.
The regulation sets out three alternates joined with a conjunctive and to learning the job in 30 days or less. The three alternatives also have an adjective phrase, primary work duties. The DOT defines the things codes related to the regulation:

5 Tending: Starting, stopping, and observing the functioning of machines and equipment. Involves adjusting materials or controls of the machine, such as changing guides, adjusting timers and temperature gauges, turning valves to allow flow of materials, and flipping switches in response to lights. Little judgment is involved in making these adjustments.

6 Feeding-Offbearing
: Inserting, throwing, dumping, or placing materials in or removing them from machines or equipment which are automatic or tended or operated by other workers.

7 Handling: Using body members, handtools, and/or special devices to work, move, or carry objects or materials. Involves little or no latitude for judgment with regard to attainment of standards or in selecting appropriate tool, object, or materials.
The DOT dataset reported by WestLaw, Lexis, SkillTRAN (Job Browser Pro and OASYS), and OccuCollect.com set forth whether the work function is primary by use of the designation significant or not significant

The reduces our list six DOT codes, two sedentary, three light, and one medium occupations. All have the code "7" representing handling. All have at least one other significant work function, either data or people. Six have significant work functions dealing with data and two deal with people:


Most of the Reasoning level 3 occupations deal with people. We are not simple -- customers that is. Data is not simple. SSR 85-15. 

When SSA says that SVP 1 and 2 work meets the definition of unskilled simple work, the agency is wrong. "And" is conjunctive, not disjunctive. In order to qualify as simple unskilled work in the regulatory paradigm, the work functions (the sixth DOT code number) must be a 5, 6, or 7, that work function must be designated as significant, and the data/people work functions must be designated as not significant

I cannot identify any DOT code classified as a general office clerk that meets those criteria. The correct number of general office clerk jobs that meet the 404.1568(a) definition of "work which needs little or no judgment to do simple duties that can be learned on the job in a short period of time" is zero. That phrase does not define SVP 1 and 2 work but instead limits the scope of SVP 1 and 2 work that meets the test. 

We have long used the R3 as a tool to limit the scope of simple work. That remains a tool but it is a shortcut to the significant things code to the exclusion of other significant work functions. The two concepts overlap but DPT is the right tool under the regulation. 

Can we just follow the law. 


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Suggested Citation:

Lawrence Rohlfing, The ORS Suggests 700,000 Sedentary, SVP 1 and 2 Office Clerks, General, California Social Security Attorney (February 10, 2025)  https://californiasocialsecurityattorney.blogspot.com


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Thursday, June 27, 2019

Prolonged Sitting and Office Clerks, General

Last week, we discussed office clerks, general as a basis for the continued viability of Table 1 of the Medical-Vocational Guidelines.  A person under  the age of 50 and restricted to the full range of sedentary work without the presence of transferable skills has a directed decision of "not disabled."  Most of the production related occupations no longer exist in any significant numbers at the sedentary range.  General office clerks continue to represent about 605,000 unskilled sedentary jobs in the nation.  That is clearly a significant number of jobs.

For this exercise, we assume no cognitive, social limitations, or manipulative limitations in performing unskilled work.  The deficit we do assume is a medically-based limitation to six hours of sitting in an eight-hour day.


43-9061.00 Office Clerks, General


Series ID: ORUP1000075800000133
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: office clerks, general; hours of sitting (10th percentile)
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: Office Clerks, General
Estimate: hours of sitting (10th percentile)
YearPeriodEstimate
2018Annual3.75
Series ID: ORUP1000075800000134
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: office clerks, general; hours of sitting (25th percentile)
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: Office Clerks, General
Estimate: hours of sitting (25th percentile)
YearPeriodEstimate
2018Annual5.25
Series ID: ORUP1000075800000135
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: office clerks, general; hours of sitting (50th percentile - median)
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: Office Clerks, General
Estimate: hours of sitting (50th percentile - median)
YearPeriodEstimate
2018Annual6.4


Standing/walking more than occasionally disqualifies an occupation from classification as sedentary.  The 10th and 25th percentiles describe work that is not sedentary:

8 / 3 = 2.67
8 - 2.67 = 5.33

Sitting 5.25 hours per day is less than 5.33 hour per day. SSR 83-10 states as a matter of agency policy:
Even though the weight lifted in a particular light job may be very little, a job is in this category when it requires a good deal of walking or standing -- the primary difference between sedentary and most light jobs.
This observation fits with the classification of 73.3% of general office clerks as requiring sedentary exertion.  The 25th percentile cannot represent sedentary work.  

Series ID: ORUP1000075800000661
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of office clerks, general; strength is sedentary
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: Office Clerks, General
Estimate: strength is sedentary
YearPeriodEstimate
2018Annual73.3

Sedentary work starts at about the 26.7 percentile.  Now we make some assumptions about the line between the 25th percentile and the 50th percentile.  Assume that the line is straight.  The difference between 6.4 and 5.25 is 1.15 hours of sitting in a day.  We account for 25 percentile increase, so divide 1.15 by 25.  That gives us 0.046 hours increase in the amount of sitting per percentile point increase.  Moving to the 26.7th percentile (a 1.7 percentile increase) yields 0.0782 hours.  Adding 5.25 to 0.0782 equals 5.3282.  Round that up and we get 5.33 hours, the absolute minimum for sedentary classification.  

What we really need to know is where the work crosses that 6 hour line.  This is a 0.75 increase from the 25th percentile.  

0.75 / 0.046 = 16.30345

The 6 hour mark is at the 41.3 percentile.  Stated differently, 41.3% of general office clerks sit 6 hours per day or less.  Of those general office clerks that do not sit more than 6 hours, most of the require more than sedentary exertion.  That leaves 15% of general office clerks that engage in sedentary exertion and sit 6 hours per day or less.  

Last week, we calculated that general office clerks engaged in unskilled work in 825,860 jobs.  If 15% of unskilled work is sedentary, then the number of sedentary unskilled general office clerks that sit 6 hours per day or less is 123,879 jobs.  

That calculation rests on the assumption that the person can both sit up to 6 hours and stand/walk up to 2.67 hours.  If the person can stand/walk 2 hours in a day, that person can perform jobs at the 41.3 percentile mark and no others.  Without the flexibility to stand/walk the full range of occasionally, a worker that cannot sit more than 6 hours is limited to 8,259 jobs. 

See When to Use Occu Collect.

Thursday, January 10, 2019

List of Light Unskilled Inspectors, Testers, Sorters, Samplers, and Weigher

Here is the list of 135 light unskilled occupations in 51-9061 for use with the piece deconstructing the job numbers for sedentary and light unskilled.

DOTCode
DOTTitle
SVP
STRENGTH
222.687-042
INSPECTOR, HANDBAG FRAMES
2
L
361.587-010
FLATWORK TIER
2
L
361.687-014
CLASSIFIER
2
L
361.687-022
LINEN GRADER
2
L
512.667-010
TEMPERATURE REGULATOR, PYROMETER
2
L
519.687-042
TEST WORKER
2
L
521.687-018
BINDER SELECTOR
2
L
521.687-022
BONE PICKER
1
L
521.687-094
PEELED-POTATO INSPECTOR
2
L
522.587-010
CARBONATION TESTER
2
L
522.667-010
LIQUOR INSPECTOR
2
L
523.687-010
COFFEE-ROASTER HELPER
2
L
526.687-010
POTATO-CHIP SORTER
1
L
529.587-014
SAUSAGE INSPECTOR
2
L
529.587-018
SCRAP SEPARATOR
2
L
529.587-022
TOBACCO-SAMPLE PULLER
2
L
529.666-010
CATCHER, FILTER TIP
2
L
529.685-194
RAW-JUICE WEIGHER
2
L
529.685-274
X-RAY INSPECTOR
2
L
529.687-026
CASING GRADER
2
L
529.687-042
CIGAR INSPECTOR
2
L
529.687-058
DEFLECTOR OPERATOR
2
L
529.687-110
GRAIN PICKER
2
L
529.687-114
INSPECTOR
2
L
529.687-126
KOSHER INSPECTOR
2
L
529.687-134
LEAF SORTER
2
L
529.687-142
LEAF-SIZE PICKER
2
L
529.687-162
MOISTURE-METER OPERATOR
2
L
529.687-178
SAMPLER
2
L
529.687-198
SUMATRA OPENER
2
L
530.687-010
RAG INSPECTOR
2
L
549.587-018
SAMPLER
2
L
550.584-014
SAMPLE-COLOR MAKER
2
L
550.587-014
SAMPLE COLLECTOR
2
L
555.687-010
SCALE OPERATOR
2
L
559.687-058
SOAP INSPECTOR
2
L
559.687-074
INSPECTOR AND HAND PACKAGER
2
L
563.687-014
MOISTURE TESTER
2
L
569.686-046
LAMINATING-MACHINE OFFBEARER
2
L
569.687-022
SORTER I
2
L
573.687-034
SORTER
2
L
575.687-030
PRESS-PIPE INSPECTOR
2
L
579.687-014
DECORATING INSPECTOR
2
L
579.687-026
MICA PATCHER
2
L
582.587-010
CHEMICAL-STRENGTH TESTER
2
L
582.684-010
PATCH FINISHER
2
L
582.687-010
BAGGER
2
L
640.687-010
ROLL EXAMINER
2
L
641.687-014
BOX-SEALING INSPECTOR
2
L
649.665-010
SORTING-MACHINE OPERATOR
2
L
649.687-010
PAPER SORTER AND COUNTER
2
L
649.687-014
PAPER-CONE GRADER
2
L
649.687-018
PAPER-PATTERN INSPECTOR
2
L
652.687-034
PRINT-LINE INSPECTOR
2
L
653.687-010
COLLATOR
2
L
659.687-014
RACKER, SILK-SCREEN PRINTING
2
L
663.687-010
WOOD INSPECTOR
2
L
681.687-010
END FINDER, FORMING DEPARTMENT
2
L
681.687-022
WARP-YARN SORTER
2
L
681.687-026
YARN CLEANER
2
L
683.487-010
BELTING-AND-WEBBING INSPECTOR
2
L
685.687-022
PATROLLER
2
L
689.685-098
PICK-UP OPERATOR
2
L
689.687-022
CLOTH EXAMINER, HAND
2
L
689.687-086
YARN SORTER
2
L
701.687-014
BLADE BALANCER
2
L
703.685-014
TESTING-MACHINE OPERATOR
2
L
709.687-038
SPRING INSPECTOR II
2
L
709.687-042
SPRING TESTER II
2
L
712.684-050
INSPECTOR, SURGICAL INSTRUMENTS
2
L
712.687-038
TOOTH INSPECTOR
2
L
713.687-030
LENS MATCHER
2
L
716.687-014
GLASS CHECKER
2
L
720.687-014
RECORD-CHANGER TESTER
2
L
723.684-022
FLASHER ADJUSTER
2
L
723.687-014
TESTER AND INSPECTOR, LAMPS
2
L
724.685-014
WELD INSPECTOR
2
L
727.687-054
FINAL INSPECTOR
2
L
727.687-062
INSPECTOR
2
L
727.687-066
INSPECTOR, CONTAINER FINISHING
2
L
727.687-078
SPARK TESTER
2
L
732.587-014
GOLF-CLUB WEIGHER
2
L
732.687-086
WEIGHER
2
L
733.687-062
PENCIL INSPECTOR
2
L
733.687-074
STENCIL INSPECTOR
2
L
734.687-026
BUCKLE INSPECTOR
2
L
736.687-018
INSPECTOR, LIVE AMMUNITION
2
L
737.684-026
INSPECTOR, SALVAGE
2
L
737.685-014
SHAKER-PLATE OPERATOR
2
L
737.687-066
INSPECTOR, SHELLS
2
L
737.687-086
MERCURY-CRACKING TESTER
2
L
739.687-038
BLOCK INSPECTOR
2
L
739.687-082
EXAMINER
2
L
739.687-102
GASKET INSPECTOR
2
L
741.687-010
PAINT-SPRAY INSPECTOR
2
L
751.684-010
CUTTER-INSPECTOR
2
L
753.587-010
SORTER
2
L
762.687-014
BOX INSPECTOR
2
L
769.687-010
BASKET GRADER
2
L
769.687-014
BOBBIN INSPECTOR
2
L
769.687-034
PLUG SORTER
2
L
769.687-042
SORTER II
2
L
769.687-050
VENEER-STOCK GRADER
2
L
772.687-014
SPOTTER
2
L
781.667-010
ASSEMBLER
2
L
782.687-050
SECONDS HANDLER
2
L
784.587-010
HAT-BODY SORTER
2
L
784.687-030
FLOORWORKER-DISTRIBUTOR
2
L
784.687-034
GLOVE PAIRER
2
L
788.687-046
FLOORWORKER, LASTING
2
L
788.687-106
SCRAP SORTER
2
L
788.687-110
SHANK INSPECTOR
2
L
789.487-010
PLEAT TAPER
2
L
789.687-010
BAG CUTTER
2
L
789.687-026
BUFFING-WHEEL INSPECTOR
2
L
789.687-034
CLOTH-STOCK SORTER
2
L
789.687-050
FINISHER
2
L
789.687-086
HARNESS-AND-BAG INSPECTOR
2
L
789.687-114
PARACHUTE INSPECTOR
2
L
789.687-146
REMNANT SORTER
2
L
790.687-018
LUMP INSPECTOR
2
L
806.687-030
INSPECTOR, BICYCLE
2
L
824.683-010
NIGHT-PATROL INSPECTOR
2
L
827.584-014
GAS-LEAK TESTER
2
L
862.687-014
HOLIDAY-DETECTOR OPERATOR
2
L
920.687-054
CAN PATCHER
2
L
920.687-194
VACUUM TESTER, CANS
2
L
921.365-010
GRAIN RECEIVER
2
L
922.687-018
BOBBIN SORTER
2
L
922.687-038
COAL SAMPLER
2
L
922.687-054
LABORATORY-SAMPLE CARRIER
2
L
922.687-086
RETURNED-GOODS SORTER
2
L
929.687-050
WRAPPER COUNTER
2
L
939.687-010
BELT PICKER
1
L
939.687-030
SAMPLE WASHER
2
L