1. Objection, the vocational expert doesn't have training in numbers of jobs.
That objection belongs before the vocational expert testified, not after. And the truth of the matter is that vocational experts perform labor market surveys and look at employment numbers. They know more than the public about work. Their opinion is probative even under the inapplicable strict standards of evidence in court. Objection overruled.
2. Objection, the vocational expert testimony lacks foundation, has no support, is unreliable, and pulled out of thin air.
None of those are objections to the admissibility of evidence. Those are arguments as to weight. If the vocational expert's testimony is a feather and no evidence exists to counter the vocational expert testimony, the feather outweighs the vacuum by a factor of infinite progression. That doesn't mean that the ALJ will accept uncontradicted evidence from an agency selected expert. But the ALJ probably will. Objection overruled.
3. Objection, the vocational expert's testimony identifies work that is no longer unskilled or no longer exists.
This is a variation of objection #2. It does not go to admissibility, it goes to weight. Present some evidence that weighs more.
4. Objection, the vocational expert's testimony assumes an accommodation with a sit-stand option.
Now that is an objection because agency policy does not permit consideration of an accommodation in making the assessment at step five of the sequential evaluation process. SSR 00-1c. The truth of the matter is that some work permits a sit-stand option as the work exists in the national economy. Security guards is an example:
Series ID: ORUP1000000000000139
Not seasonally adjusted
Series Title: % of all workers; sitting vs. standing/walking at will is allowed
Requirement: Physical Demands
Occupation: all workers
Estimate: sitting vs. standing/walking at will is allowed
Year | Period | Estimate |
---|---|---|
2017 | Annual | 37.4 |
But the ORS does not list any discernible group that contains unskilled work as having that sitting versus standing/walking at will data field. The absence of data should be read as not allowed not license to make things up. SSA recognizes that unskilled work requires maintaining body posture to maintain productivity. SSR 83-12.
These examples make clear that there is generally not an objection to the vocational expert testimony. Admissibility is a low bar. Weight is the correct focus. Arguing weight requires that the claimant present additional evidence. Setting that stage requires a set of preliminary questions:
1. Is your testimony with the data published by the Department of Labor?
a. The Occupational Outlook Handbook
b. The Occupational Information Network
c. The employment projections
d. The occupational employment statistics
e. The current population survey
2. Is your testimony consistent with the the data published by the Census Bureau?
4. Is your testimony consistent with the data fields not contained in the printed SCO but published in the electronic versions of the DOT/SCO (Job Browser Pro, West Law, etc.)?
The response from the ALJ or the vocational expert that the witness relies on experience is this:
5. How does your experience as a rehabilitation consultant compare to the data gathering capacity and reporting of the Department of Labor or the Census Bureau?
The best tactic is to avoid the use of the "objection." It is not the right procedure. The only procedure that has a chance of winning is the introduction of new evidence and then the demand tha that the ALJ resolve the conflict in the evidence. See question 5: how does the VE's local and anecdotal experience compare to the statistical prowess of the Department of Labor and the Bureau of Labor Statistics? They are not in the same league.
a. County Business Patterns3. Is your testimony consistent with the DOT industry designations?
4. Is your testimony consistent with the data fields not contained in the printed SCO but published in the electronic versions of the DOT/SCO (Job Browser Pro, West Law, etc.)?
The response from the ALJ or the vocational expert that the witness relies on experience is this:
5. How does your experience as a rehabilitation consultant compare to the data gathering capacity and reporting of the Department of Labor or the Census Bureau?
The best tactic is to avoid the use of the "objection." It is not the right procedure. The only procedure that has a chance of winning is the introduction of new evidence and then the demand tha that the ALJ resolve the conflict in the evidence. See question 5: how does the VE's local and anecdotal experience compare to the statistical prowess of the Department of Labor and the Bureau of Labor Statistics? They are not in the same league.
I mostly agree with this, but suggest that some VEs have no expertise in labor statistics, especially as it relates to the National Economy and that making an objection to their expertise vis a vis job numbers is a marker for subsequent appeals. I agree that it will be overruled and that questioning the VE about the numbers is more important than making the objection.
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